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Viking709
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par Viking709 » mar. 9 mars 2021 20:20

Thank you

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zeitoun
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par zeitoun » mar. 9 mars 2021 21:02

fdunadan a écrit :
mar. 9 mars 2021 19:30
in "visibility" page 20 "a unit can only charge, shoot or react toward enemy that are visible to her. So you can't charge or shoot at an enemy hidden in a wood or behind a crest. A hidden unit that fire reveal herself to all enemies" (my translation from french version)
Since visibility is 1 UD in the woods, assuming the Austrian are still in the woods and not in sight of any french troop, the french unit cannot charge: they may know that some Grenzers are there somewhere but they don't know exactly where.


I agree.

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RogerGreenwood
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par RogerGreenwood » mer. 10 mars 2021 00:06

Ah, so 'reveal' will mean a hidden unit becomes 'known' but not 'visible'. That does seem a valid interpretation.
I change my position on this issue then.
Add this to the items that need to be better expressed in the next version 😊

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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par RogerGreenwood » dim. 28 mars 2021 13:37

An artillery unit is 6 UD from a building occupied by an enemy. The enemy is not visible to the artillery, hence it cannot bombard the building. So, the only way the artillery unit will get to shoot is if friendly troops approach the building within 1 UD to 'see' the occupiers. This assumes the word 'discovered' (p70) means 'are now as visible as the building '. Otherwise the artillery will not be able to shoot at the building.
Correct?

Viking709
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par Viking709 » dim. 28 mars 2021 23:27

Or you move up and the hidden troops shoot exposing themselves
That’s my understanding Roger

RogerGreenwood
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par RogerGreenwood » lun. 29 mars 2021 09:10

The idea of artillery moving up into half the range of muskets before shooting at a building does not seem correct.
Much as I dislike adding extra rules, I think there is a need in the buildings section for something like:
"Artillery may fire at a building known to have been occupied by troops even if these are no longer a visible target."

viperofmilan
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par viperofmilan » lun. 29 mars 2021 21:52

Surely the guns are firing at the buildings, and not specifically at any of the troops scattered among the buildings.

RogerGreenwood
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Re: Visibility to charge

Message par RogerGreenwood » mar. 30 mars 2021 08:43

Yes, but someone is bound to ask why you are firing at a building if you have no knowledge of any enemy in them.

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